The Early Show and David Brame The Other Side
The Early Show on CBS had a segment on a new women's shelter createdafter a police chief murdered his wife and then took his own life.I am not sure of the actual situation in this case, but I do knowmany of these happen when one is falsely accused and are about tolose all they have. I sent this to the Early Show. (there isa "contact us" at the bottom of their web site:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml
I just saw your segment on domestic violence. Most all of what I seein the media is one sided. There are over 2,000 shelters for womenin the United States and every state has laws to protect women.There are only three shelters that will help men who are abused andnone of them can accept his children, yet men are abused at an equalrate as are women. Even according to the Department of Justice, 39%are men and that is with many men being arrested when they are thevictims. This of course would throw off any demographics so that iswhy I believe the real rate is equal.Many wanted to get Congress to change the Violence Against Women Actto a Domestic Violence Act which would give equal protection to bothmen and women and would hold each equally accountable for their ownactions. Many groups which state they want equal rights for womenwere violently opposed to this showing they do not want equality,they want superiority. To look at only one side of this issuebefore passing these types of laws is like asking the KKK to writeRacial Relationship laws.I contend that the VAWA is more about money then about real abuse.When we reward someone for being abused, we will find manymore "victims" We are told many myths regarding domestic violencesuch as more women go to the emergency room for domestic violencethen for rapes muggings and auto accidents combined. In reality,more go for dog bites then for domestic violence.The real rate of domestic violence is far far less then the numbersthese "advocates" state it is. Women and children are safest inintact homes when they are married.Why not get input from all sides? I also ask that why did the mediastop asking those that may oppose a viewpoint for their side of theissues?
We have written about murder/suicides. I firmly believe many ofthese are due to false accusations for which these men know theywill lose everything they had including their children with out dueprocess of law
I also believe that a police officer would know the deck is stackedagainst him although I am not saying this was the situation in thiscase.
Unless we look at both sides, more women will be harmed as well asmore men. Is it not time to Value ALL our people? Is it not time tohold each adult responsible and accountable for their own actionsinstead of allowing them to say someone made them do it?
A follow up on my message to you regarding Tacoma Tragedy Brings Hope For Others
You state: Last month their tireless efforts paid off. Congress passed legislation to increase police funding for domestic violence programs.
Can you tell me how this is different then the billion dollars a year we have been spending for the last ten years to protect half the victims of violence while arresting the other half?
http://www.shatterdmen.com/VAWA%20too.htm
Accusations of abuse are common in a pending divorce and it is not hard to find a friend to go along with these accusations. There are NO reports of domestic violence at all in his court files...NOTHING even though a searched back to 1980 was done, nor were there any criminal or civil charges , nothing EXCEPT the divorce proceedings and the woman's allegations, but nothing to back them up in any way, shape or form
There is NO history of violence, or restraining orders that is documented in any way
03-3-00358-5 Brame, David Allen 02-24-03 RespondentDissolution with Children (DIC)
wife filed divorce in 2003
From the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
The bloodshed came a day after the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that documents in the couple's divorce case revealed a history of domestic violence. Crystal accused her husband of pointing his gun at her, trying to choke her in November and saying he "could snap my neck if he wanted to."
It was the fourth time in 2002 that he had tried to choke her, she said, noting that each time he had sent her flowers to apologize.
David Brame claimed he had been victimized in the relationship. He accused his wife of having a "ferocious temper" and being emotionally unstable (for which nothing was done, no one looked into her history)so the "neighbor" who saw it has been tampered with since that same neighbor did NOT come forward AT THAT TIME, but the ex sure did say that about the gun....Since Mr Brame was a police officer, this would have meant he would have lost everything due to these false accusations. It has been enough motive for murder/suicide in the past and it will be again far too often in the future unless we offer men the SAME protection we offer women for abuse. It would also mean he knew far too well what the results would be for any man accused of domestic abuse with or without any evidence to back it up.
It just may be time to do some REAL investigative reporting instead looking at only ONE side. You may want to start with the other side of the story and we will make it easy for you.
http://sillyseattle.blogspot.com/2005/01/blaming-brame.html
We often hear that reports like this state: We tried to contact the other side but they would not respond so we ask, will you respond to this information?
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml
I just saw your segment on domestic violence. Most all of what I seein the media is one sided. There are over 2,000 shelters for womenin the United States and every state has laws to protect women.There are only three shelters that will help men who are abused andnone of them can accept his children, yet men are abused at an equalrate as are women. Even according to the Department of Justice, 39%are men and that is with many men being arrested when they are thevictims. This of course would throw off any demographics so that iswhy I believe the real rate is equal.Many wanted to get Congress to change the Violence Against Women Actto a Domestic Violence Act which would give equal protection to bothmen and women and would hold each equally accountable for their ownactions. Many groups which state they want equal rights for womenwere violently opposed to this showing they do not want equality,they want superiority. To look at only one side of this issuebefore passing these types of laws is like asking the KKK to writeRacial Relationship laws.I contend that the VAWA is more about money then about real abuse.When we reward someone for being abused, we will find manymore "victims" We are told many myths regarding domestic violencesuch as more women go to the emergency room for domestic violencethen for rapes muggings and auto accidents combined. In reality,more go for dog bites then for domestic violence.The real rate of domestic violence is far far less then the numbersthese "advocates" state it is. Women and children are safest inintact homes when they are married.Why not get input from all sides? I also ask that why did the mediastop asking those that may oppose a viewpoint for their side of theissues?
We have written about murder/suicides. I firmly believe many ofthese are due to false accusations for which these men know theywill lose everything they had including their children with out dueprocess of law
I also believe that a police officer would know the deck is stackedagainst him although I am not saying this was the situation in thiscase.
Unless we look at both sides, more women will be harmed as well asmore men. Is it not time to Value ALL our people? Is it not time tohold each adult responsible and accountable for their own actionsinstead of allowing them to say someone made them do it?
A follow up on my message to you regarding Tacoma Tragedy Brings Hope For Others
You state: Last month their tireless efforts paid off. Congress passed legislation to increase police funding for domestic violence programs.
Can you tell me how this is different then the billion dollars a year we have been spending for the last ten years to protect half the victims of violence while arresting the other half?
http://www.shatterdmen.com/VAWA%20too.htm
Accusations of abuse are common in a pending divorce and it is not hard to find a friend to go along with these accusations. There are NO reports of domestic violence at all in his court files...NOTHING even though a searched back to 1980 was done, nor were there any criminal or civil charges , nothing EXCEPT the divorce proceedings and the woman's allegations, but nothing to back them up in any way, shape or form
There is NO history of violence, or restraining orders that is documented in any way
03-3-00358-5 Brame, David Allen 02-24-03 RespondentDissolution with Children (DIC)
wife filed divorce in 2003
From the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
The bloodshed came a day after the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that documents in the couple's divorce case revealed a history of domestic violence. Crystal accused her husband of pointing his gun at her, trying to choke her in November and saying he "could snap my neck if he wanted to."
It was the fourth time in 2002 that he had tried to choke her, she said, noting that each time he had sent her flowers to apologize.
David Brame claimed he had been victimized in the relationship. He accused his wife of having a "ferocious temper" and being emotionally unstable (for which nothing was done, no one looked into her history)so the "neighbor" who saw it has been tampered with since that same neighbor did NOT come forward AT THAT TIME, but the ex sure did say that about the gun....Since Mr Brame was a police officer, this would have meant he would have lost everything due to these false accusations. It has been enough motive for murder/suicide in the past and it will be again far too often in the future unless we offer men the SAME protection we offer women for abuse. It would also mean he knew far too well what the results would be for any man accused of domestic abuse with or without any evidence to back it up.
It just may be time to do some REAL investigative reporting instead looking at only ONE side. You may want to start with the other side of the story and we will make it easy for you.
http://sillyseattle.blogspot.com/2005/01/blaming-brame.html
We often hear that reports like this state: We tried to contact the other side but they would not respond so we ask, will you respond to this information?
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